I wanted to write this once the issue settles down so that anyone(who reads this ever) will have a cool head to understand what I am trying to tell.
This issue between Kushboo and the parties is a bigger human behavioral issue, if you really look at it.
At one end people(like Kushboo) talk in practical terms (like pre/post-marital affair is fine) and when others ask
why you are telling this this is not what we see everywhere, then the response comes in the puritan
(as if they don’t have any value system at all) sense asking why cannot I say this, this is my freedom of speech,
aggression on women.
But the response that we get from the so called 'elite class'is fundamentally wrong because you yourself have a value
and when they themselves have some value systems which when questions becomes wrong, there comes the issue.
Like one saying your value system is wrong and mine is right. This is my whole point.
I agree for all the comments people make on freedom of speech.
But we still believe at a normal middle class household level(which is the major demography still), "it" is a “taboo” right.
That is the conditioning we have. The value system we have.
See, we know Smoking is bad (relatively), Drinking is bad.
Like this we also know "this" is bad and you expect you don’t want to join the “few” who do this. Correct?
May be this is the very famous “middle class” mentality.
Any time this is the same trend for centuries now.I am not telling that this has happened now only.
We come to know that Call centers have high rate, colleges/school have high rate of this.
But will you advice, encourage your kids or relatives kids those who join college or a call center
by saying “you have it no problem but be safe” .
The point I am making is, Yes, Bad things happen (again relative to the general value system) and may be lots/few
people are doing it but talking it and opening everything in public in a country like ours is not advisable.
This may be called as hypocritic.
But it is better that these are discussed at different levels and the conclusion should not be “it is okay as long as it is safe”
That is what is bothering me. I will happy to see statement like Subroto Bagchi's comment “you can fornicate at 13 but you have a child at 30
why? Because you need mental maturity” That is sense.
The above statement is not made for this issue ,but for highlighting the readiness for responsibility in corporate ladder,
yet I am hightlighting it for his maturity level in talking such terms
That should be conculsion. “Kid, you will have physical urge but please wait, you will get married,
you have lots of things to concentrate on so many things till then” .
See people do have physical relationship but is it discussed in public?
How you do it when you do it is it discussed in public? why do you hide it?
(France doesn’t do it, US doesn’t do it). Can you sit and watch an intimate scene with your parents?
We have a value system where we differentiate between Father mother, wife, sister, brother etc.,?
Because that is where we differ from Animals and have a good knowledge of what we do.
So if you hold such values then you are a low level human and those who don’t have are intellectuals?
If the same discussion happened within a campus in an University, nothing bad, but if this happens in public people don’t understand this.
In a less educated country like India where the poor/oppressed looks to rich/learned people
if irresponsible statements like these comes from those "role models" then the poor/oppressed is going to think
”oh this is the latest trend” like exactly how we got this culture of "playing cricket/speaking English/foreign is good" mentality from westerners.
That too in a highly populated country like India the later “safer part” of discussion is ignored and only the fancy part is taken.
See how everyone is discussing about pre-marital part and not the safer part whereas that is what people should be actually discussing.
This issue between Kushboo and the parties is a bigger human behavioral issue, if you really look at it.
At one end people(like Kushboo) talk in practical terms (like pre/post-marital affair is fine) and when others ask
why you are telling this this is not what we see everywhere, then the response comes in the puritan
(as if they don’t have any value system at all) sense asking why cannot I say this, this is my freedom of speech,
aggression on women.
But the response that we get from the so called 'elite class'is fundamentally wrong because you yourself have a value
and when they themselves have some value systems which when questions becomes wrong, there comes the issue.
Like one saying your value system is wrong and mine is right. This is my whole point.
I agree for all the comments people make on freedom of speech.
But we still believe at a normal middle class household level(which is the major demography still), "it" is a “taboo” right.
That is the conditioning we have. The value system we have.
See, we know Smoking is bad (relatively), Drinking is bad.
Like this we also know "this" is bad and you expect you don’t want to join the “few” who do this. Correct?
May be this is the very famous “middle class” mentality.
Any time this is the same trend for centuries now.I am not telling that this has happened now only.
We come to know that Call centers have high rate, colleges/school have high rate of this.
But will you advice, encourage your kids or relatives kids those who join college or a call center
by saying “you have it no problem but be safe” .
The point I am making is, Yes, Bad things happen (again relative to the general value system) and may be lots/few
people are doing it but talking it and opening everything in public in a country like ours is not advisable.
This may be called as hypocritic.
But it is better that these are discussed at different levels and the conclusion should not be “it is okay as long as it is safe”
That is what is bothering me. I will happy to see statement like Subroto Bagchi's comment “you can fornicate at 13 but you have a child at 30
why? Because you need mental maturity” That is sense.
The above statement is not made for this issue ,but for highlighting the readiness for responsibility in corporate ladder,
yet I am hightlighting it for his maturity level in talking such terms
That should be conculsion. “Kid, you will have physical urge but please wait, you will get married,
you have lots of things to concentrate on so many things till then” .
See people do have physical relationship but is it discussed in public?
How you do it when you do it is it discussed in public? why do you hide it?
(France doesn’t do it, US doesn’t do it). Can you sit and watch an intimate scene with your parents?
We have a value system where we differentiate between Father mother, wife, sister, brother etc.,?
Because that is where we differ from Animals and have a good knowledge of what we do.
So if you hold such values then you are a low level human and those who don’t have are intellectuals?
If the same discussion happened within a campus in an University, nothing bad, but if this happens in public people don’t understand this.
In a less educated country like India where the poor/oppressed looks to rich/learned people
if irresponsible statements like these comes from those "role models" then the poor/oppressed is going to think
”oh this is the latest trend” like exactly how we got this culture of "playing cricket/speaking English/foreign is good" mentality from westerners.
That too in a highly populated country like India the later “safer part” of discussion is ignored and only the fancy part is taken.
See how everyone is discussing about pre-marital part and not the safer part whereas that is what people should be actually discussing.
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